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Is America at a Generational Crossroad?

January 23, 2013

To the editor: On January 22 it was the 40th anniversary of Roe vs. Wade, and so it seems appropriate to take some time to reflect on our country’s decision regarding abortion....

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svensota

Feb-02-13 3:04 PM

Anytime, JR, anytime.

I'm always happy to add clarity and insight into the world of the befuddled and the politically encumbered, whether they live in Rome or in this paradise called home.

Just think of me as a warm, caring sage.

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JReader

Feb-01-13 11:40 AM

Sven, when in Rome, (or in this case New Ulm) I guess you can say the local culture has had an impact on me. Thank you Sven for the influence you've imparted on me.

Oteron, Michael is nothing more than a spiritual bully. Think Junoir High when there are those kids that in order to feel any level of self-worth must make someone feel miserable. It's really pathetic when you stop and think about it. The only way for someone to feel good and in this case righteous you need to make someone else feel bad and sinful.

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oteron

Feb-01-13 12:12 AM

MT is so arrogant that he lacks credibility and distances anyone he thinks he is saving.

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svensota

Jan-29-13 7:10 PM

Aw, JR, don't exclude yourself from that stunningly accurate analysis.

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JReader

Jan-29-13 2:08 PM

You can state that the sun rises in the East and people will disagree with you. I think it has to do with a certain mindset prevalent in these parts.

You can choose one of several adjectives to describe this way of thinking. For me, I simply like to refer to their scientific name "Equus africanus asinus" when describing their collective behavior.

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svensota

Jan-29-13 12:50 PM

Suchislife: These answers may be helpful to your two points.

1.) This is a tough crowd to please.

2.) Consider the source.

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cestlavie

Jan-29-13 7:58 AM

1) how can anyone "disagree" with my comment that when you have group insurance, you pay for other peoples' choices with which you may not agree?!

2) MT - I was not twisting any meanings of the Bible (of which I do not lack knowledge). I was paraphrasing a few passages that I doubt any of us adhere to, including you. I'm not interpreting anything, I'm not twisting anything, I'm stating what we both know is in there. Either you believe it all and follow it all or your faith is in danger - that is paraphrasing you.

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svensota

Jan-28-13 9:16 PM

You two guys should go on daytime television.

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JReader

Jan-28-13 5:48 PM

Isn't it a bit ironic that there are those among us who would condemn and cast away a pregnant teenage girl. They would choose to make an example of her "sin" to be a lesson for everyone to see.

I recall this very thing happening at one time and this teenaged girl was forced to deliver her child in a stable...

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Zorromcgee

Jan-28-13 4:49 PM

CLV-it is futile to reason with MT-even if you prove him wrong he will not admit his error. You cannot argue anything the bible says as he sees his interpetation as the only one. He is immune to his own hypocracy and is unable to recognise irony. His sactimony and condesention is mildy amusing however.

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cestlavie

Jan-28-13 8:51 AM

What people don't understand about the ACA is that if you have ever purchased group insurance you are already paying for peoples' smoking, obesity, poor food choices, drinking, abortions, ******* children, birth control, erectile dysfunction, morning-after pill - health expenses

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cestlavie

Jan-28-13 8:47 AM

MT - never wears mixed fiber clothing, doesn't eat shellfish or fraternize with menstruating women (or is unclean if he does). He never discards any teachings of the Bible.

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GrandmaD

Jan-27-13 8:26 PM

My faith is not in danger, & neither is my Christianity. I like who I am & how I believe. "Amen."

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GrandmaD

Jan-27-13 7:25 PM

It just registered. I guess I should be spelling publicly as such & not publically. Supposedly it is acceptable both ways, & I have seen it both ways, but publicly should be the first choice. Sorry about that.

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GrandmaD

Jan-27-13 5:37 PM

Michael - You ask me that because I think it is wrong to demean pregnant young girls by exiling them or parading them in front of their peers or their church congregation so they may publically apologize for what happened??????

I do, for the most part, recognize my Bible as authorative, but I, also, recognize that my God would never want me to belittle or shame someone in the manners described. Unfortunately, those things happened, but they shouldn't have.

If you question my Christianity because that is how I believe, that is your right, but perhaps you should evaluate yours, as well.

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GrandmaD

Jan-27-13 10:51 AM

Michael - Actually, your words were that if people don't agree with those methods of discipline, they are free to attend school elsewhere. Also, you wanted someone to explain how those methods of discipline were acting in an "unchristian" manner. It's quite clear you support those actions.

Now you say those methods should be "suggested" so others are not encouraged to do what she has done. We all teach our children right from wrong, about sin & its consequences. The churches we belong to do, also.

There is a long list of things that are wrong, including, parading young pregnant girls in front of their peers & making them apologize or exiling them from their church community. Suggesting to do those things is wrong, also. No Bible passage is ever going to make any of that okay in my eyes, & I do read my Bible & I am a Christian. Once, again, GopherState said it best.

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GrandmaD

Jan-26-13 9:07 PM

GopherState - Very well stated. That is how it should be handled. That is the true Christian way.

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GopherState

Jan-26-13 8:51 PM

The Christian thing to to is for one or two people to sit down with the person that they are concerned about and talk with them about how their unrepentant sins are dangerous for their soul. They should do this in a loving way, with concern and compassion. If the person serves a public position, such as a pastor, it may be necessary for a public apology, but I can't think of any time when it is appropriate to parade a young girl in front of her peers and have her publicly apologize for her sins. That can be done with a smaller group.

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GopherState

Jan-26-13 8:45 PM

Michael, their suicides can be on your conscience then.

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GrandmaD

Jan-26-13 6:18 PM

I'm referring to the demeaning practices mentioned earlier...public apologies, etc.

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GrandmaD

Jan-26-13 6:14 PM

The love of my Christ is my motivating force to embrace & treat young pregnant girls with dignity & respect. I will never believe that I am contributing to the moral decay that surrounds us in our country by doing so.

I'm hoping that schools/churches refrain from such practices nowadays, or should I say I'm hoping they have surrendered to the worldly view of what Christian is. If schools/churches do still engage in such practices, I guess it is their business. I still agree with EaglesFan that it is wrong on all levels.

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GrandmaD

Jan-26-13 1:20 PM

Michael - Are you referring to my Catholic school forcing pregnant girls to go to the Public school because they were no longer welcome? If so, there is nothing Christian about that, & if there is, please enlighten me. Or........

Are you referring to schools & churches (Catholic & Lutheran & others)) subjecting pregnant girls to public humiliation? There is nothing Christian about shaming & degrading someone in front of her peers. If there is, please enlighten me on that, also.

The young lady who bravely shared her experience was abandoned by her church community. Enlighten me, also, on how that is Christian.

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GrandmaD

Jan-25-13 5:50 PM

I agree, EaglesFan. Christian schools aren't always so Christian. My gut feeling tells me that this lady's experience happened in a Catholic school, but no matter where it happened, it was wrong.

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EaglesFan

Jan-25-13 2:21 PM

I've heard of MVL publicly shaming their pregnant students before, as well. Yes, the student made poor choices, but public humiliation in a case like that is just wrong on so many levels. That doesn't sound like what I would expect to come from a "Christian" school.

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GrandmaD

Jan-25-13 10:25 AM

Zenrfanklib - I don't know what church you belonged to at the time, but I do know that my Catholic church was not supportive at all. My siblings, who are older than me, tell me that if anyone got pregnant, they had to go to the Public school & were not welcome at the Catholic school. I witnessed that, also. Pregnant girls have been able to finish their education in their Catholic schools for many years now, but, some who experienced it were still put to shame.

I have a friend whose daughter went to MVL in its early years. She got pregnant & had to go to all the classrooms & publically apologize to all the students. Another friend's daughter had to apologize in front of her church (Lutheran) congregation.

I commend you for making the choice you did & for standing proud. The only ones who should feel shame are those who put you down. For those of you who are going to disagree, you are in denial because these things happened.

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