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Settlers’ suffering seems to be forgotten in US-Dakota War commemorations

February 3, 2013

To the editor: I am writing in regard to concerns I have about the recent proclamations by the governor and articles in several newspapers involving the commemoration of the 1862 US-Dakota War....

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mlfamilytree

Feb-23-13 1:58 PM

Many survivors of the conflict did suffer afterward. My 2nd great Aunt Louisa Frohrip worked at the Lower Agency for the Nairn family.They were warned to leave prior to the Aug 18 attack and also warned by White Spider not to go to the Ferry. I thank the Dakota for that. She went on to marry and have a family but descendants have stories of how "child-like" she was and the nightmares she had. She talked about how the Indians nailed Mama's hands to the door. She hanged herself when she was in her 80's. My GGGrandfather John never spoke about any of this and so my branch of the family knew nothing of the 1862 events. As I have passed it onto others in my family they say they have never heard of it.As I have learned more I feel my family was just as much a victim of the government as the Dakota. They knew nothing of the danger they were moving into. In order for reconciliation we truly must have both/all sides sit at the table and talk honestly, truthfully and with caring for

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middleclassworker

Feb-06-13 8:57 PM

We should put toll booths at all roads leading in and out of the reservation. If they want to avoid taxes, they and their customers can pay to use our roads. Fair is fair.

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GrandmaD

Feb-06-13 8:37 PM

My nephew is married to a Native American, & this is what he tells me. Native Americans who live & work on reservations are exempt from paying state taxes. Reservations are considered sovereign lands, & sovereignty is a legally guaranteed right outlined in treaties & protected in the Constitution.

Casinos are operated by sovereign governments & are not required to pay taxes. He says tribes, as a whole, do not pay federal, state, or local taxes. Individually, if you work for the tribe, you are exempt from many taxes. If you don't work for the tribe, you will pay most taxes, with some exceptions. One exception for not paying federal taxes would be if someone received income directly from a treaty resource (fish, timber, farmland) - no taxes are levied.

When he & his family lived on the reservation, they did not have to pay property taxes. They moved off a couple of years ago, & pay it now. It all sounds complex to me.

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Zorromcgee

Feb-06-13 11:17 AM

natives do pay federal taxes, property taxes, sales taxes, gas taxes. And someone asked what the settlers gained? They got an entire nation, is that not enough?

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EaglesFan

Feb-06-13 10:38 AM

They don't pay income taxes to the state that they live in. The casinos don't pay business taxes. Do they pay taxes to drive on our roads?

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oteron

Feb-06-13 9:48 AM

Catch, in what world don't indians pay taxes?????

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oteron

Feb-06-13 9:48 AM

Catch, in what world don't indians pay taxes?????

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catch22

Feb-05-13 6:53 AM

It would seem the Indian's ancestors have profited greatly in the past two decades. Their casino's, no taxes etc. What have decendents of the settlers gained over the conflict? Can you be more specific? My family lived in Milford when this masacre happened, in fact, my uncle swore he saw ghosts when working the fields at night near where the monument now stands. The were not indians but women in long dresses and children running.

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catch22

Feb-05-13 6:53 AM

It would seem the Indian's ancestors have profited greatly in the past two decades. Their casino's, no taxes etc. What have decendents of the settlers gained over the conflict? Can you be more specific? My family lived in Milford when this masacre happened, in fact, my uncle swore he saw ghosts when working the fields at night near where the monument now stands. The were not indians but women in long dresses and children running.

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familyandfriends

Feb-03-13 3:02 PM

I too am a descendant of people killed in Milford and Birch Coulie in Renville County. In 1862, the settlers were not the government; many were not even aware of the governments' involvement with the Indians. The settler story has virtually disappeared, and this writer did a fine job telling his story in a fair and reasonable manner. We need to hear from all descendants involved in this conflict, not just a few outspoken ones.

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DU1152

Feb-03-13 1:52 PM

There is nothing wrong with asking for equal billing. Has nothing to do with ignorance or being racist. My great great grandmother and 4 of her kids were taken hostage and held until the end of the conflict. Did you read about them during the big 150th celebration? I would bet not. At least they survived, unlike the woman that had her baby cut out of her belly and had it nailed to a tree while still alive and left to die. I guess they didn't deserve to be hung for that. I guess if they were hungry they could have just stole their food, I mean, get real folks.

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starsailing

Feb-03-13 1:11 PM

I too agree with the first letter writer. I have seen article after article, speeches made to the public and to government officials, and historic sites with displays in relation to the Dakota and U.S. war of 1862. The newsmedia does not allow the telling of how white children, women, amd men were killed and mutilated. Everyone is allowed to say 38 Dakota were hanged etc.However, you never see how 650 non war Dakota were killed. 1.It is too gruesome. Two. Those in control of media simply don't want to tell a balanced story of how all people suffered before the war and after. John LaBatte, historian who has ancestors on all 3 sides involved in the war, has a blog site where he examines the stories told in media and historic sites for historical accuracy. It pretty much shows what the first writer was writing about. Afeter looking and Labatte's site, ask yourself, how can you make the telling of history fair, balanced, and accurate. *******dakotawar1862.wordpress****/

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Tomsawyer

Feb-03-13 11:14 AM

I also agree with the writer 100% and am glad someone finally had the backbone to say it. I also had men, women and children ancestors killed in their homes and fields. They were here legally trying to make a living for themselves. Their stories should be told and commemorated also.

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ddrag3

Feb-03-13 11:09 AM

I am with the letter writer 100%. I also have a connection to the murder and mutilation of the white settlers. Mine survived, but to say that whites are still not suffering because of this just shows how arrogant, unintelligent and ignorant some people can be.

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oteron

Feb-03-13 9:10 AM

Not enough time to elaborate now, but what the writer fails to understand, and how he is ignorant and how the systematic destruction continued. WE benefitted immensley from their slaughter. He is blaming The Dakota people for a conflict WE (our government is we the people) created. If anyone does not know that part of our history, (which is not revisionist) then they are ignorant - an perhaps unitentionally, racist. We have failed to teach ourselves and our children the true history of this state.

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oteron

Feb-03-13 8:17 AM

So, how are you still stuffering today as a result of the conflict?? Was your way of life systematically wiped out and undermined by a a larger government? Its amazing that a letter writer can be so racist and suffer from such ignorance.

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