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We need a constitutional convention

July 14, 2013

To the editor: As one who is concerned that the federal government has forsaken its constitutional moorings, I have been searching for actions that can be taken to correct the alarming expansion of......

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EaglesFan

Aug-10-13 12:22 PM

Wouldn't it just be a lot less work to buy a congressman or two? That's how it is done these days, isn't it?

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mnsotn

Jul-20-13 11:02 PM

The sad thing is that MT can't dispute any of these. Many of them are straight from the Republican platform.

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svensota

Jul-20-13 5:56 PM

I wonder who would benefit from mnsotn's excellent list?

Now, let's see....

The Koch bros wouldn't try to rig a constitutional convention would they? Nah!

And, ya' think ol' Sheldon Adelsen might cough up a hundred mil or so to make sure the convention "goes the right way"?

Oh, the things money can buy.

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EaglesFan

Jul-20-13 9:20 AM

The sad thing is that if you look at most of Mnsotan's list, you will see that a lot of those have been Republican campaign promises or actual bills proposed by Republicans at one time or another since the rise of the Tea Party.

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GrandmaD

Jul-20-13 8:14 AM

I doubt that Michael would propose Catholicism, as he is Lutheran.

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mnsotn

Jul-20-13 2:04 AM

I can just see some of the proposals that would come from people like Michael.

Catholicism is to be the National Religion. It is to be taught in all schools. All kids will pray.

All media is to be censored.

Eliminate Unions.

Eliminate OSHA.

Open free trade to all countries.

Eliminate the estate tax.

Eliminate corporate taxes.

Eliminate business property taxes.

Eliminate child labor laws.

Eliminate overtime laws.

Eliminate prevailing wage laws.

Eliminate Social Security.

Eliminate subsidized health care.

Repeal the 18th Amendment, but this time, allow poor white people to become slaves, as well.

Drill Baby Drill.

Eliminate Capital Gains Taxes.

Strip Wall Street Regulations.

Instate School Vouchers.

Cut Teacher Pay.

Eliminate the EPA.

Cut funding to Higher Education. (Poor people don't need education to work in the new sweatshops).

Reinstate the draft.

Did I miss any?

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LibertyLady

Jul-18-13 8:50 PM

Our “leaders” in Washington already ignore the Constitution, but they would love an opportunity to finally toss it into the trash as a quaint, antiquated document and be done with it in their quest for total government.

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LibertyLady

Jul-18-13 8:48 PM

There is no way to limit the scope and purpose of a Constitutional Convention and we will finally lose the Constitution once and for all. It’s how we got our Constitution in the first place — the founders tossed out the Articles of Confederation when the states’ representatives were only authorized to amend them.

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svensota

Jul-18-13 5:24 PM

James Madison. What did he know? He was probably just a compliant accomplice of the Radical/Marxist Colonial Left.

Dang commie pinko founding father bad guy varmints.

Right, MIT?

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mnsotn

Jul-17-13 11:55 PM

I shrill at the thought of some of the middle class killing proposals that could come out of the red neck states.

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Auntydem

Jul-17-13 9:07 AM

cont... Under all these circumstances it seems scarcely to be presumeable that the deliberations of the body could be conducted in harmony, or terminate in the general good. Having witnessed the difficulties and dangers experienced by the first Convention which assembled under every propitious circumstance, I should tremble for the result of a Second meeting in the present temper of America, and under all the disadvantages I have mentioned. - James Madison

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Auntydem

Jul-17-13 9:06 AM

Letters of Delegates to Congress: Volume 25 March 1, 1788-December 31, 1789, James Madison to George Turberville:

If a General Convention were to take place for the avowed and sole purpose of revising the Constitution, it would naturally consider itself as having a greater latitude than the Congress appointed to administer and support as well as to amend the system; it would consequently give greater agitation to the public mind; an election into it would be courted by the most violent partizans on both sides; it wd. probably consist of the most heterogeneous characters; would be the very focus of that flame which has already too much heated men of all parties; would no doubt contain individuals of insidious views, who under the mask of seeking alterations popular in some parts but inadmissible in other parts of the Union might have a dangerous opportunity of sapping the very foundations of the fabric.

continued....

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middleclassworker

Jul-17-13 1:03 AM

Yet, MT, you seem to have no problem with the Fascist Plutocrats in your party that are taking over this country. Legislators should be writing laws at the will of the people, not the will of corporations.

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svensota

Jul-16-13 11:15 PM

MIT: I believe you have evolved into a certified nutcase. Just read your last post, cowboy.

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svensota

Jul-16-13 6:25 PM

Congratulations to Mr. Thom for his brilliant and bold proposal to circumvent Congress and change our constitution via direct legislation by the states.

Everyone knows--certainly Mr. Thom--that state governments are far more reliable and less corrupt than the national legislative branch. Fine current examples of gross ineptitude include, but are not limited to: Illinois, California, New Jersey, New York, Michigan, Nevada and most of our former Confederate brethren, notably North Carolina of late. And, Texas is in its own special category: uber-nuts.

One can only image what kind of ham-fisted mess Mr. Thom and his fellow fascists would concoct if given the opportunity.

Fortunately, there is no possibility he or any of his ilk will ever get the chance to fiddle with our constitution, because the overwhelming majority of Americans like our country the way it is, not the way right-wingers imagine...it was.

Keep listening to your radio, MIT. But, next time try Christian rock.

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mnsotn

Jul-16-13 2:13 PM

Yes Michael, when you organize that group, could you tell them to stop treating corporations like people and start giving rights back to the American workers? Also, tell them to start holding Wall Street to the same accountability as Main Street.

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JReader

Jul-16-13 12:21 PM

Michael,

I think what you are referring to would best described by a group that is already in existence. They call themsleves the "Tea Party".

Our status quo government must have felt very threathened by them so much so they had to sick the IRS on them and continues to use the MSM to constantly lampoon them. You should sign up. Don't expect your admission fee to be tax deductable any time soon, however.

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Reason2Puke

Jul-15-13 11:49 PM

We don't have to speak about theoreticals. The "great society" is a decided failure. Government cannot efficiently manage massive programs. That goes for social security, medicare, national education, our standing military, and now ObamaCare. There are big government progressives on both sides of the aisle and they are helping themselves to obscene benefits and cushy futures. Support for the status quo or anything that resembles it is shortsighted at best.

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Auntydem

Jul-15-13 8:27 PM

Direct as in "explain to me the difference in philosophy between yourselves and the old Soviet Union"?

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Auntydem

Jul-15-13 7:37 PM

Ask Levin. Was he still Meese's chief of staff when Attorney General Meese resigned when facing investigation for influence peddling, selling federal jobs,and the manipulation of federal investigations?

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Reason2Puke

Jul-15-13 4:06 PM

Dems don't distinguish between corporate welfare and tax incentives. The former is money thrown down a rat hole like with Solyndra. The latter is a break on the taxes for companies to incent them to invest those dollars into communities, jobs and economic growth. This is a break on taxes corporations pay on their profits, which is in addition to taxes they pay for their employees, their real estate and their equipment. When properly structured, rarely does a tax incentive end up being a negative investment like the earned income credit, food stamps and welfare payments.

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Reason2Puke

Jul-15-13 2:13 PM

A simple way to look at it for you simpletons is this: Bigger government = bigger problems. Smaller government = smaller problems. Government cannot grow its way out of problems, it can only make them worse. You will see this stark example as ObamaCare unfolds.

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Reason2Puke

Jul-15-13 2:10 PM

Yes. I absolutely consider the billions of dollars that go to corporations as welfare. Government giving an unfair advantage to any individual or group is outside of the scope and bounds of the constitution.

Who is Mark Levine?

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Auntydem

Jul-15-13 2:04 PM

Guess FDR's statements mean as much to you as Mark Levin's do to me.

If you prefer, check for the 14 characteristics of fascism.

Do you consider the billions to corporations as welfare?

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Reason2Puke

Jul-15-13 1:01 PM

mnstn, to suggest that republicans, or anyone would be in favor of slavery makes you ignorant and sick. You have bought revisionist history because the reality is that it has been the Republican Party that has always been at the forefront of civil rights, including Abraham Lincoln who signed a little document called the Emancipation Proclamation in 1862.

Robert Byrd (D) was a Grand Wizard of the KKK and Al Gore, Sr. (D) filibustered the Civil Rights Act of 1964 to stop republicans from bringing it to a vote. Get your facts straight before spewing your nonsense.

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