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Hobby Lobby’s objection

July 5, 2014

To the editor: The editorial in the July 2nd edition of the Journal entitled “How do we define true believers?” contains a critical mistake in describing the Supreme Court’s decision re Hobby Lobby....

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middleclassworker

Jul-12-14 2:47 PM

I'm guessing that he got the boot.

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Auntydem

Jul-12-14 9:27 AM

MT's comments all disappeared?

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Auntydem

Jul-09-14 4:20 PM

Still never got an answer.

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Auntydem

Jul-09-14 4:19 PM

Seems I've died and it's judgement day.

I retract my apology.

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JReader

Jul-09-14 9:28 AM

Thanks MCW. Nice to know you have my back. Time to call the doc my soldier has been standing at attention for over four hours now.

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middleclassworker

Jul-09-14 1:46 AM

It's okay, JR. You are among friends. Don't be embarrassed.

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Auntydem

Jul-08-14 10:45 AM

In that case, I stand corrected, as my only proof is my memory. My apology, MT. Hopefully you will accept an apology from an enemy of America, convicted by the court of you.

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JReader

Jul-08-14 10:03 AM

EaglesFan:

That's all the better you can come up with ? Can't think of anything to add to the adult conversation so you have to throw out the "V" word.

It does bring up one point. Maybe the government should just stay out of the bedroom - you too EaglesFan !!!

Don't worry - I hear they are still working on a pill to cure stupid. Hopefully your plan will cover it. You'll just have to remember to take it as prescribed.

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svensota

Jul-08-14 1:00 AM

Aunty: MIT is right, sad to say. Puke is the one who likes to vomit the "vermin" word.

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EaglesFan

Jul-07-14 9:07 PM

Jreader- does your health insurance part for your v I a G r A or does that come out of pocket?

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metoo2

Jul-07-14 7:09 PM

Deerhunt, Planned Parenthood does much more than hand out contraceptives.

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Auntydem

Jul-07-14 5:38 PM

MT - No, the questions was What would a government led by your political dream team do with enemies like me, and those you have referred to in the past as vermin?

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deerhunt

Jul-07-14 4:43 PM

I assume we can do away with Planned Parenthood handing out contraceptives. Now that we have contraception covered for all we should be able to close them down totally , would just be a redundant government program.

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deerhunt

Jul-07-14 4:41 PM

Cestlavie , I agree with your post , just the same as car insurance , if you have a bad driving record you should pay more. Unless you are born with a physical defect you have a choice in life to live healthy or not , something you can always change along the way. Choice - something this country was founded on .

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JReader

Jul-07-14 4:36 PM

Between co-pays and deductibles I pay at least a portion of all of my health care costs. I currently take three drugs that keep me alive. Between the three of them it is around $900 a year out of pocket. I don't expect a free ride because I choose to pay my fair share. Nobody has yet to explain why women should get free birth control as mandated by the government.

I've never smoked and I'm not diabetic (if that makes any difference).

A woman can get free birth control for no other reason that she doesn't want to get pregnant. Why is this so compelling a condition that the government needs to mandate it ?

Aunty, your argument doesn't hold water. I'd rather just get a pay check from my employer and buy those things I deem necessary for my life. I don't need the government to tell me what I do and do not want or need.

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deerhunt

Jul-07-14 4:35 PM

Aunty , your theory is flawed-the company paying with their own money is different than the employee deciding to spend their money on contraception. Or is it as Democrats that you see the company's money as your own. With your theory if they go out and buy drugs the company is also guilty? I can't believe this country has come to the point where adults cannot afford contraception ,it is not that expensive, we are an entitlement society. The trouble with an entitlement society is that people are to stupid to understand it is coming out of their own pocket, marked up and given back to them. Anytime a transaction takes place, the more people involved the higher the price and more fraud.

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Auntydem

Jul-07-14 4:09 PM

MT - I answered your question. Why not answer mine?

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Auntydem

Jul-07-14 2:58 PM

Employer pays toward insurance coverage which some employees choose to use for objectionable contraception. Employers object because in those cases their payment is going toward something they object to, infringing on their freedom of religion.

Employer pays wages which some employees choose to use for objectionable contraception. Employers' payment is going toward something they object to. Infringing on their freedom of religion?

Same distance between employer and contraception. What's the difference? Obama?

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cestlavie

Jul-07-14 2:23 PM

deerhunt - to expand on your post. I don't want to pay for diabetes drugs for fat people. I don't want to pay for cancer treatments for people who have ever smoked. I don't want to pay for hypertension meds for people who eat like crap. I don't want to pay for stents for people who don't exercise daily and have a body mass index of <24. Does that sound good?

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housafire

Jul-07-14 1:42 PM

JReader

Couldn't the same be said for many procedures that insurance covers now?

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housafire

Jul-07-14 1:39 PM

MT

IUDs work by diminishing the viability of sperm.

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JReader

Jul-07-14 12:31 PM

housafire:

Thanks for your rather descriptive explanation of the hormonal IUD. One thing you didn't address: Why should this device be offered free of charge for every woman enrolled in an employee sponsored health plan ? Where is the wider public interest served by this government mandate ? I realize women get a freebie at their employer's expense. How does this make us a better society and a stronger nation ? How do children, the elderly, and men benefit from this ? I don't see this elective medical device providing a benefit to the wider population. It seems the entire group must pay for it in order for a select group to use it for free. Please demonstrate where I'm wrong with this assumption.

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Integrity

Jul-07-14 10:40 AM

MCW - where is it written that employers have to provide any health care? The constitution? These are benefits, not privileges, just like vacation, sick time, company phone, etc. I'm NOT saying that we should just have a business free-for-all without government regulation, but starting with the recession, the government has stepped in and started to decide major areas that need to be open to free market. We need to stop allowing the government to breed dependence and start allowing people to provide for themselves and take responsibility for their lives and the decisions that come with that.

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deerhunt

Jul-07-14 10:31 AM

I can't believe people need to have their contraception paid for by their healthcare plan, unless for medical reasons. Let's have our car insurance pay for gas ,oil changes and repairs. Let's have our homeowners insurance pay for our shingles , heat and electricity . Once that is in place I only what the most expensive, gas ,shingles ,oil changes and repairs. I won't care what the price is because the insurance company will be paying for it. I think we have reached a new low as a nation when we can't afford a dollar for a ****** . There is nothing free, we all pay for it in premium increases. All this does is take personal and financial responsibility out of the equation , time to act like adults, get your priorities in line.

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housafire

Jul-07-14 9:28 AM

MT

Per Web MD

Other advantages of the hormonal IUD Also, the hormonal IUD:

Reduces heavy menstrual bleeding by an average of 90% after the first few months of use.1 Reduces menstrual bleeding and cramps and, in many women, eventually causes menstrual periods to stop altogether. In this case, not menstruating is not harmful. May prevent endometrial hyperplasia or endometrial cancer. May effectively relieve endometriosis and is less likely to cause side effects than high-dose progestin.3 Reduces the risk of ectopic pregnancy. Does not cause weight gain.

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